Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

**Zero** · October 30, 2011, 08:25 PM

Why isn't this game out yet?

**Darkone** · November 4, 2011, 10:49 AM

Call of Duty Elite Delayed on, Yes, PC

Just another example of why i hate this developer... oh hey the game is done for xbox and ps3 but not for PC, lets go ahead and release it anyways the PC gamers wont care... I'm so glad i didn't spend money on this remake of MW2 or shit they could even call it Black Ops2!! (This is my opinion, you are entitled to your own.)

**Concwest** · November 7, 2011, 09:46 AM

I will admit these game modes look kinda bad ass though Expecially the ONE thats like Capture the flag only you have to hold the Flag Reminds me of that hold the Flag game mode in Halo on COD style

CHeck out the Comments too

and yes it was team oddball from Halo and they are right Kill confirmed is gunna get annoying as Fuck

http://www.callofduty.com/mw3/videos/modes_match

**Concwest** · November 8, 2011, 09:37 PM

Well im not impressed they could have done alot better and I agree with Dark they Rushed it and you can tell they cut alot of corners

**Sho-Nuff** · November 8, 2011, 10:54 PM

agree with dark and with my own expectations of what was to come totaly rushed im not even drawn in to the single player, the multiplayer is MW2 with new maps except worse cause no Hardcore and it just doesnt feel smooth
the menus however tell the story its a console port and PC again gets the shaft, all said the single player will get my time and ill only play the multiplayer with Clan! Where the Fuck is the Hardcore mode?

**Concwest** · November 10, 2011, 01:23 PM

it unlocks at level 19 or if you join a party with someone over level 19 you can play it also

**Zombie Moses** · November 11, 2011, 09:23 AM

My First-Impressions Review (better one to come later)

First off, if you don't own or haven't played this game, please don't pass judgment on it (at least not without admitting you don't actually have the game). I don't care if you 'fucking hate' Activision or IW, in fact that's probably better reason you said nothing at all. No offense to any of you who have already done so, but you are not qualified to talk about it and you are ruining it for people who may actually enjoy it.

That said, if you do own it, and have played it extensively, please, please, PLEASE, say something. Information here is key and we need to outweigh the hearsay with solid evidence.

The Good (MP):
Good pacing in MP, as always. Battles are frenetic and intense. Create-A-Class is more of a time sink than ever, allowing an unprecedented amount of game play customization, including different strike package (read killstreak) setups for each class, and the new weapon specialization option. Perk balancing is better than ever, partly because of the strike package being a possible source of temporary perks (in addition to your standard ones) and partly because the most beneficial perks are now more evenly distributed. I would find it difficult to find a single perk which I would use for all my classes (that's a good thing, more diverse game play). Playlists seem to get you into a lobby faster, but that could be simply the volume of people playing right now (at least they make it look like it's doing something in the meantime). Finally, unlike in previous games, most of the weapons play very well. LMG's are now actually quite different from other guns (and they can use the rapid fire attachment). The gun sounds are completely exaggerated, but the performance is great and that's what is most important. In short, the multiplayer isn't as 'MW2 Clone' as people tend to assume. Private matches are finally worth playing. First, everything is unlocked in them (even all camos), so we can have scrims without being crippled by every prestige. It's also important to note that dedicated servers have this same facet, which may prove either positive or negative, depending on your perspective. Second, game demos can be automatically recorded, just like in Black Ops, and they don't tend to affect game play (at least not obviously). Third, you can now design and SAVE custom game modes (think Halo), so no more taking an hour to tweak game options every time we want to play some new custom game. Lastly, you may now eliminate weapons, attachments, and specific strike packages from your game modes, so if we want no tubes, you can force no tubes. While some of the maps are frustrating for CoD vets, I have to say that Bakaara, Mission, Underground, Resistance, Downturn, and Seatown are fairly fun maps, some of them reminiscent of CoD 4 which is a very good thing.

The Bad (SP):
Same old graphics engine. Campaign has an unforgivably stereotypical and uninteresting plot. The 'shockers' are about as unexpected as the sunrise. Makarov is painted as an omnipotent boogy-man, with somehow better intel than all of the worlds militaries combined. Yet, in the final mission he dies like a bitch to a bloody button pressing sequence. Every mission is just like the other, completely indistinct. Even the attempts to break the monotony are brief and again, nothing new. Finally, throughout every mission, your team will give you patently bad tactical advice like "Keep moving forward!" When there are ten guys shooting you in the face, and "Move with the tanks for cover!" which only leaves you completely exposed AND unable to see your targets until they stick a barrel in your face. Finally, your teammates are about as retarded as possible, being completely inept at killing anything and not even providing a decent distraction as any enemy that can see you will only shoot at you.

(MP)
You aren't allowed to play Hardcore until rank 19. Really IW? This pointless 'you must be this tall to ride' nonsense has got to stop. It serves literally no purpose except to frustrate MW vets who don't need a fucking three-hour refresher course. Thankfully, this only applies to your non-prestige ranks. Kill Confirmed (new Game-type) doesn't really change TDM enough to warrant a separate playlist. All this means is that once players start getting scarce, that playlist is going to be completely obsolete. Several of the maps feel cluttered and sometimes have confusing paths with little or no cover. The lack of cover is what I am guessing the developers thought would reduce camping, but all it does is give campers a more clear view of their quarry. Specific maps I found to follow this system are Outpost, Village, Interchange, Carbon and Arkaden (the mall) and I do not like them, for the record. Also, the XM25 grenade launcher is far too powerful in hardcore modes. Literally it's just two clicks and the user can explode grenades right next to your face from halfway across the map. A least with the under barrel systems, you still need to carefully place grenades to hit targets that are above you. This issue is probably most pronounced in Domination.

The Soon-to-Come:
I haven't yet tried Spec Ops and Survival.

Bottom Line:
The MP game play is still as solid as MW ever was. The wealth of new features is certainly worth the price, though they are really going to have to add better maps before it will exceed MW2's standard.

##Despite the title, this is actually my full review, there won't be another one, I'll just update this one when necessary.

**Banger** · November 11, 2011, 11:29 AM

:aol_fakepussy:

**Darkone** · November 11, 2011, 08:55 PM

Haven't played it not spending a dime on it.... That being said Zombie enjoy your MW2 "clone" or MW2.5... Opinions are like assholes, deal with it!

**Concwest** · November 11, 2011, 10:21 PM

I played it one night fine the next i was plagued with Errors and Haven't changed anything on my machine. Waist of $60 in my Opinion

**Banger** · November 12, 2011, 09:17 PM

:aol_churnit:

**Darkone** · November 14, 2011, 10:47 AM

I found this comment from a Kotaku.com artical to be spot on...

I may be a passionate gamer and seeing an unbalanced game does make me upset, but I am also a passionate developer as well, and seeing people crank out games year after year with LITTLE effort in quality assurance or improvement personally disgusts me. Where is the passion in making the game? Where is the progression? Where is the self respect? Other than the story, everything in MW3 could have patched into MW2. EVERYTHING. Even a 30 dollar DLC, but to sell 9+ million copies (equaling $500+ million made in sales) and not spending the time, money or effort to make the BEST game possible just infuriates me.

The biggest budget game was GTA4 with what, 60 million? It used an engine created from scratch, several dozen voice actors, HOURS upon HOURS of music and original radio content, modeling New York City as best as you can without having it be NYC. It had animations from scratch, models from scratch, etc etc. A great open world environment.

What does MW3 do that MW1 didn't do?
Same engine? Check.
Same textures? Check.
Same animations? Check.
Same sounds? Check.
Same models (character and environment)? Check.
Same balancing issues? Check.

Sure this next part might be my opinion, but I think it's completely unacceptable. They don't give a fuck about the consumer. They give you COD Elite, a feature set that Bungie and Dice give for FREE for their users Activision charges for. They charge 15 dollars for a "throwback" map slightly modified with zombies added.

They milk the consumer. This is why I get mad. This is why I hate COD. It's bad for the rest of the industry as they have no chance to show innovation as COD eats up the market with their rehashed (yes I just used that word) product year after year.

Oh, and when COD finally does die, hundreds of hundreds of people will get thrown out of their jobs, just like every other franchise Activision has owned. Fuck them.

EDIT: Also the evidence of several COD4 maps for MW3 is just a hilarious addition and support to my claims.

**Banger** · November 14, 2011, 12:27 PM

seriously you both need to stop beating this dead horse...we get it....you hate the game and now move on.

**Darkone** · November 14, 2011, 02:28 PM

Thanks bangbuss.... But i just keep posting to piss in your and Zombies coffee...

Yay it worked!!!!!